The UI of the forum is profoundly changed. For what benefit ? It seems forum is more and more painful to use at each major revamp.
Is it only me who cannot see the improvements ?
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As I want to use a c++ 17 feature which is only available in clang 15.0. I upgrade my macos to 14.5 and xcode to 15.2. My app works fine in my development machine, when I run it in lower version of macos with lower version of xcode/clang, I got error: cant' load library ***, Symbol not found :yyyy. referenced from : zzz, Expected in: /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib
When I check /usr/lib/, I can't find libc++.1.dylib.
Normally in Linux, this could be solved by shipping libstdc++.so.6 or static linkling the libstdc++ library, as I'm a newbie in macos, what's the recommend way to solve it in macos ? Thanks!
When I view the forums on my iPhone in landscape mode, the information distribution is not great:
Not-so-important four numbers take the whole right half of available space, with important information such as title and description being truncated. Hope this is just a bug and will be fixed!
■Confirmation
My post on the Apple Developer Forums is not published even though it have been reviewed.
Does any work need to be done at the time of submission or after review in order to be published?
■Background of the question
I posted one on the Apple Developer Forums yesterday.
Immediately after posting, a message saying "It will be published if it passes the review" was displayed on the screen.
This morning, that message disappeared, so I thought the post had been published, but my post was not displayed on the post list screen.
I tried searching for the post title, but it doesn't appear for a while.
I’ve seen a number of comments recently from folks who are unable to attach a crash report to their post. I’d like to gather some examples so that I can escalate this issue. If you’re affected by this, please reply here to let me know.
Ideally I’d like that reply to contain a copy of your crash report. That’s problematic if you can’t post it! One workaround is to upload it to your favourite file sharing service and then post a link here. That’ll work as long as you post the link in the clear. See tip 14 of Quinn’s Top Ten DevForums Tips
For general info on how to post a crash report, see Posting a Crash Report.
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Quinn “The Eskimo!” @ Developer Technical Support @ Apple
let myEmail = "eskimo" + "1" + "@" + "apple.com"
Create an Apple account for developers on the X platform
I file a lot of bug reports. I also ask a lot of third-party developers to file bug reports about problems they see. This post is my attempt at collecting together some hints and tips about Apple’s bug reporting process.
To file a bug report, use Feedback Assistant.
To file an enhancement request, use Feedback Assistant. In the “What type of issue are you reporting?” popup, choose Suggestion.
If you’re filing a bug against an API, choose Developer Technologies & SDKs at the top level. The technologies popup should then list familiar items, from Accelerate Framework to XPC. If you can’t find the correct item, select “Something else not on this list”.
Feedback Assistant is both a website and an app. For details on how to access the app, see Opening the app on the Developer > Bug Reporting page.
For lots of great hints and tips about filing bugs, see File effective bug reports. I may repeat some of the info covered by that article, but only where I think it’s particularly important.
After filing a bug report, please include the bug number in your DevForums post. Feedback Assistant shows the bug number in both the bug list and the bug detail view. Bug numbers start with FB and continue with a sequence of digits. For example, a recent bug report posted here on DevForums was FB11357055.
Including the FB prefix avoids any confusion as to what type of bug number this is. Occasionally you’ll see other types of bug numbers. In release notes they are just in parens, so (99071807), and in DTS documents they have an r. prefix, so (r. 99071807). These are Radar numbers. Radar is the internal bug system here at Apple.
Other developers can’t see your bug report. However, posting the bug number is still important for a couple of reasons:
It allows Apple folks to quickly track down your issue.
If another developer wants to file a related bug, they can reference your bug number in their bug report.
You can share bug reports with other members of your team. For details on how to do that, see Collaborating with your team on the Developer > Bug Reporting page.
Otherwise you can’t see a bug report filed by another developer, or one filed internally at Apple. One option here is to file your own bug and request that it be marked as a duplicate of the original bug. You’ll then be notified when the original bug is closed.
The File effective bug reports article discusses the importance of including a sysdiagnose log with your bug report. I have a few additional tips:
Include a sysdiagnose log from the machine that’s having the problem. Sometimes I see folks with an iOS problem include a sysdiagnose log for their development Mac )-:
Include a sysdiagnose log even if you attach a test project that reproduces the problem. The contents of the log help with screening, making sure that your bug gets to the right person quickly. And that person will be very grateful to have your test project!
If multiple machines are involved — for example, you’re reporting a Handoff problem — include a sysdiagnose log from each machine.
Trigger the sysdiagnose log as soon as possible after you see the problem. The sooner you trigger the log, the more likely it is to capture relevant info.
If the problem is hard to reproduce, see Using a Sysdiagnose Log to Debug a Hard-to-Reproduce Problem for hints on how to capture an actionable sysdiagnose log.
If you install a debug profile, install it before you reproduce the problem. These profiles typically enable more logging, and you want that logging to be active at the time of the problem.
Most profiles activate immediately but some require that you restart. Follow the instructions that came with the profile.
When reproducing the problem, make a rough note of the time and include that in your bug report. This doesn’t have to be super precise. Just note down the time, with seconds, shortly after you reproduce the problem.
If the bug involves a crash, reproduce the crash outside of Xcode and then take your sysdiagnose log. This means running your code as the user would, so running an app from the Finder on macOS, running an app from the Home screen on iOS, and so on. If you reproduce the crash inside Xcode, the Xcode debugger catches the crash and prevents the system from generating a crash report to include in the sysdiagnose log.
File focused bug reports. Imagine you’re seeing two problems, A and B, related to the same API. Don’t file a single bug that covers both A and B. Rather, file separate bugs for A and B. Feel free to reference your A bug in your B bug, and vice versa.
Finally, some personal notes:
DevForums is not an official support channel. Mentioning a problem here is not the same as filing a bug about it. That’s true even if you’re discussing your issue with an Apple person. Apple is a big company, and it’s very unlikely that the person you’re talking to is directly responsible for fixing your bug.
Historically I used to post a lot of Radar links, of the forms rdar:nnn, where nnn includes the bug number. I no longer use these links because I’ve found that they confuses folks. They click the link and wonder why it does nothing.
If you post an FB number here, DevForums automatically turns it into a link. However, that link is only useful to you. Other folks can’t access the bug via that link. I’ve filed a bug against DevForums requesting that it only generate this link for the bug’s originator (r. 92946014). In the meantime, I work around this by putting FB numbers in code style, which disables this link generation.
If you want to share bug information outside of DevForums, one popular option is Open Radar (https://openradar.appspot.com/).
Apple uses a lot of open source and many open source projects maintain their own bug tracker. Two big examples are Swift and WebKit. If your bug originates in such an open source project, consider filing it in the project’s bug tracker. You can then go on to submit a pull request with the fix (-:
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Quinn “The Eskimo!” @ Developer Technical Support @ Apple
let myEmail = "eskimo" + "1" + "@" + "apple.com"
Revision History
2024-03-07 Made minor editorial changes.
2023-10-26 Added a link to Using a Sysdiagnose Log to Debug a Hard-to-Reproduce Problem. Added a recommendation to file focused bug reports.
2023-06-28 Updated the advice on how to file an API-level bug based on recent changes to Feedback Assistant. Corrected some link titles.
2023-03-21 Added a bunch of bullets to the personal notes section.
2023-03-13 Extended the discussion of seeing other folks’ bugs to make it clear that you can’t see bugs filed internally at Apple.
2022-12-13 Added advice about the “Something else not on this list” option.
2022-09-01 Added a personal notes section at the end. Added a new bullet in the sysdiagnose section about running your app outside of Xcode. Made other minor editorial changes.
2022-08-29 Added a note about filing duplicate bugs.
2022-08-24 First posted.
This is a testing thread to try attaching crash report that was unable to be attached few days earlier when I tried to create a new thread. This test is requested by Apple DTS to help isolating the issue.
For more context: https://forums.developer.apple.com/forums/thread/747480
Crash report:
crash-log-iOS-17.crash
It looks like these new forums are based on the new Apple Support Communities code. I frequently post on ASC so I know what does and does not work there. I will focus on features that need to be imported from ASC and features that don't.
Email notifications - Some people really like to work from e-mail notifications. ASC has notifications for participation, following, points, etc. Just make sure they always default to "OFF".
Subscriptions - ASC already has this and is (in my opinion) the ideal way to find and respond to questions. Essentially, this is just searching on multiple tags. The subscriptions is an interface to let me define what tags I want to search for by default.
Sorting - Primarily, we need to see messages sorted by descending timestamp.
Sorting - I would like to be able to sort by both created or updated timestamps. Sometimes I want to see bona fide new messages.
Searching - This is ASC's big weak spot. Search is virtually useless on ASC. You have to really tweak the "filters" to get anything useful out of it. Re-do this and then back-port it to ASC please.
Threads - Thread view is all messed up. This thread (https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/134075) is a good example. It seems to be organized hierarchically, with new replies to individual posts appearing immediately after the post being replied to. This is really confusing. Just order it by timestamp.
ASC has a feature to automatically guess the target forum (tag in these forums) from the content of the question being asked. That would be useful here. Otherwise, you risk everything going into "iOS".
Provide an easy way to see my own posts to see if anything has been updated. ASC doesn't really offer this. I have found a custom filter query that I use to simulate the "Inbox" of an old version of ASC. None of those custom filters seem to work over here. This is another opportunity to fix and then port back to ASC.
Filtering - ASC has a complicated system of filtering. Please don't import that.
10. Subscriptions - If you do implement a subscriptions system like ASC, pay attention to unpopular forums. Otherwise, new question in popular forums will drown out questions in more specific forums. The "Top Tags" list has already started that. Of course "iOS" and "macOS" will be most popular. But if everybody uses only those tags, they become useless.
Specialties - This is part of ASC gamification system. I don't necessarily mind them, but they aren't implemented very well on ASC. One has to perform specific actions, such as asking a question, to start earning a speciality. What about people who don't ask questions? How do you handle people with multiple specialties? ASC seems to pick one at random and display it, which is very annoying.
Guidelines - I think the Terms of Use need to be expanded and be crystal clear about what is allowed and not. I've just seen my first help wanted ad here. Is that allowed? I don't know.
Other comments:
Very nice use of Markdown in the editor. This is probably not something that could be ported back to ASC. Developers should be able to handle it though.
I like the documentation links at the top of tag results pages.
I receive "This post contains sensitive language. Please revise it in order to continue." error, although I just list my failing notarization requests
I've noticed there is a new 'Same Here' button showing on any post (except your own posts).
I first thought it was a link to a similar question… Specially when the button just says 'Same here' without any badge value. But no, it is just similar to a like…
I guess the goal is to avoid and speed up instead of posting a reply or a comment 'Same here'.
Unfortunately, it is not possible to undo and no way to know who posted.
As your own posts do not show the button, does it mean you cannot know how many share the same issue than the one you posted ? If so, that's bizarre. Hope it will show the counter at least when it is non zero.
Let me see how many 'Same here' on this post…
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Hi,
How to delete a post from Apple Developer Forum ?
Kindest Regards
Hello,
I need a moderator to delete or edit my reply on forum post which contains some personal identifying information.
Forum Post: https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/743497?login=true&page=1#775836022
Thanks.
I replied to this thread a couple of hours ago, but the recent post list, sorted by Last Update, does not show it, and my watch list shows an update date based on a previous reply.
Hello,
I need a moderator to delete or edit my forum post which contains some personal identifying information.
Forum Post:
https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/742972
Thanks.
How to remove answered mark
Anyone know how to include sample code or screenshots because the very basic form to submit one most definitely does not have the option to do so.
Submitted a TSI 4 days ago. Heard nothing back. Status Used. Surely a TSI is a fulfilled request and not just ignored?
Also the forum tags don't have TSI so not sure where this post will end up
Don’t know when this started, but I just found that I’m unable to downvote any posts, and the button for reporting abuse/spam/etc. is missing. If I hover over the downvote button, a popup says "Only forum users with 100 or more reputation points can downvote posts and replies.” I do have way more than 100 points.
Is there a way I can delete my own question/post from the Apple Developer Forum?